Irvine Welsh loves the hills.

Irvine Welsh: I think one of the great thing’s a lot of San Francisco is a sort of… I just love the topography of it, . It’s a great walking town. You just, you can around San Francisco and suddenly you get up on one of the hills and you’re looking over the side, and you just got a completely different aspect. You can’t believe that you were, you’ve just emerged onto this, this hill where you can just see all over the place. Then you dip down into this kind of cool neighborhood that you never sort of seen before… it’s just… And it’s obviously because of, it’s always…

Again, it’s… all America is sort of changing because of maybe… maybe San Francisco… I was going to say that affluence has driven out a lot of the edge to San Francisco. I used to go there and [IB]. There can only be this advantage to, I used to always to [walk to] San Francisco, and people used to go there for the vibe and the view and the whole kind of hippie thing and stuff like that. But, now it’s the recession might, ironically, might restore the kind of glory of San Francisco, in a way and stop it being this kind of yuppie paradise, which is kind of it’s become, with the whole Silicon thing and all that.

Recorded on: September 8, 2008